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Topic: Need help with wiper door
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70
Vette Senior
Member
Posts: 75 From: Hamilton, Ontario, Canada Registered: Jul
1999 |
posted
06-22-2000 05:46 PM
When I turn on the wiper switch,
the door does not open nor do I hear the wiper motor. When I try to
open the door with the vacuum switch, it does not open. I can put up
my headlights with the vacuum switch. I replaced the wiper fuse, no
change. Anybody got any ideas?
------------------ Don 1970 Donnybrooke Green Coupe,
350/300, 1st day of production
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ddecart Senior Member
Posts: 3481 From: Howell, MI Registered: Aug 1999 |
posted
06-22-2000 10:51 PM
If the door isn't coming up when
you pull the vacuum override switch under the dash, then your
problem is most likeley vacuum related.
This means nothing but fun!!
The vacuum has 2 routes to get to the wiper door. The problem is
either with the control loop or the actuation loop.
The control loop goes as follows: The vacuum check valve under
the hood has 2 outlets. The smaller one goes into the car and splits
off. One goes to the headlamps, the other the wiper door. The wiper
door side routs through the override valve and the solenoid valve.
The check valve is the manual one and the solenoid is the electric
one that shuts the vacuum off when you turn the wiper switch on.
The line proceeds out to the valve under the door that the left
wiper arm presses against when its down (this is the 'ok to close'
switch) and then its on to the relay valve located under the right
fender (not in all cars though).
The way this loop works is that there is always vacuum going all
the way to the relay valve EXCEPT when you want the door open. All 3
valves in the line can send the 'open door' command to the relay
valve. If the door ISN'T opening, this isn't your problem.
Now for the actuation loop. The other check valve output goes to
the vacuum reservoir. Out of the reservoir it tees off. One side
going up to the headlamps, the other going across the car to the
wiper door relay valve. There has to be vacuum in this line for the
door to open.
So what does the relay valve do?
The relay valve has 1 big hose going in, 2 big hoses going out
and a small hose goign in. The out hoses connect to either side of
the door actuator. Inside the relay valve is a sliding 'switch'.
This switch routes the 'incoming vacuum' to the proper side of the
actuator.
When vacuum is applied via the small hose (the control loop) the
switch is in the 'door closed' position.
When this vacuum signal is broken (by opening one of the control
valves mentioned above) an intwernal spring in the relay valve
pushes the switch so that the incoming vacuum is routed to the
'open' side of the actuator.
Now that you hopefully understand how the system works you're
probably still asking what's wrong with yours? The chances are that
the relay valve is frozen or leaking. If this is the case, the
vacuum isn't doing any good. Or you have a misrouted hose.
Start with the vacuum canister side of the system and follow the
fat hoses to make sure they go to the right spot. The big hose
should go INTO the relay valve in the middle. Check with a vacuum
gage to make sure ou have vacuum getting that far. Then just
systematicall check things to see what's working or not.
Good luck!! Dave
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70
Vette Senior
Member
Posts: 75 From: Hamilton, Ontario, Canada Registered: Jul
1999 |
posted
06-23-2000 05:02 PM
Many thanks Dave, this will be my
weekend project. Have a great weekend, based on what you've
described, I'll be having a fun one!!
Thanks again.
Don
------------------ Don 1970 Donnybrooke Green Coupe,
350/300, 1st day of production
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Juliet Senior Member
Posts: 3175 From: Annapolis, Md Registered: Jul 1999
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posted
06-23-2000 11:22 PM
Hey Dave, Thanks for the great
post. It's definately a "Save it to disk" one,
worthy of the hard drive space.
------------------ ~Juliet ...overlooking Mill Creek on the
Chesapeake Bay... Loaded Bridgehampton Blue on Blue '70 350/300Hp
TH400 with a White Ragtop
NEW!! 1970 Corvette Registry
Online: http://www.annapolis.net/members/julepage/1970Registry.html
Click on my corvette picture to go there!
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A70stingray unregistered |
posted
06-24-2000 02:06 AM
Check out the "Vacuum" Box in the
tech section of my site. I just finished it. Maybe it will help
some.
John http://vetteworks.tripod.com/
http://vetteworks.tripod.com/techdocuments/Vaccum.html
[This message has been edited by A70stingray (edited
06-24-2000).]
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gtr1999 Senior Member
Posts: 1609 From: CT Registered: Aug 1999 |
posted
06-24-2000 09:01 AM
Dave & John great info. I
haven't reached the vacuum stage yet but I'm not far away so your
info will really help. Gary
------------------ GTR Wallingford,CT '69 350,4 spd,3:36
conv. '72 350,TH400,3:08 coupe.
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70
Vette Senior
Member
Posts: 75 From: Hamilton, Ontario, Canada Registered: Jul
1999 |
posted
06-24-2000 07:37 PM
Dave & John,
Many thanks for all your help. It does appear to be a frozen
relay. Now to find the part (hopefully GM still has some kicking
around).
Later,
------------------ Don 1970 Donnybrooke Green Coupe,
350/300, 1st day of production
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